Wicked Psychotherapists

Twins, Tantrums, and Therapy: Breaking Down Adam Sandler's “Jack and Jill”

• Erin Gray and Tanya Dos Santos • Season 3 • Episode 23

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In this hilarious and heartfelt episode of Wicked Psychotherapists, Erin and Tanya keep the Adam Sandler streak alive by diving headfirst into the outrageous 2011 comedy Jack and Jill. 

From twin dynamics to emotional dysregulation, sibling rivalry, and unresolved grief, we unpack the psychological gems hidden beneath the slapstick chaos.

Join us as we dissect Jill’s unfiltered emotions, Jack’s image-conscious career moves, and what this movie reveals about authenticity, family roles, and identity.

 Of course, we throw in plenty of laughs, pop culture connections (hello again, Johnny Depp!), and a final showdown between Dunkin’ and Starbucks. It’s wicked smart, wicked funny, and wicked relatable.

Whether you're a fan of Sandler, sibling drama, or just love finding therapy themes in unexpected places—this one's for you. 

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Erin:

Hey everyone, it's Tanya. Hi, it's Erin, and welcome to Wicked Psychotherapists.

Tanya:

Yes. So today we have a really fun one and we are not stopping our role with Adam Sandler. We are obsessed. Adam, if you're listening. We are fellow New Englanders, we love you. we're dedicating like our days to you, You know, all these, we're watching all your movies and psychoanalyzing them somewhat.

Erin:

Everyone is going back in time with Adam.

Tanya:

Adam. Yeah. it's great. it's amazing. but yeah, today we're gonna be talking about, Jack and Jill, which was in 2011. So a little bit closer to, now than before. We're used to talking about the nineties, kind of early 2000 Adam Sandler movies, but this is a little closer.

Erin:

Mm-hmm.

Tanya:

So this is a more recent one. Yeah. They actually

Erin:

had internet. And cell phones. Yeah.

Tanya:

Yep. We can, yeah, there's some relation there. I had not seen this before. I believe you hadn't seen it before too, right? No, I've never seen it. I hadn't either. it was a delightful surprise. I was like, wow, this was, I knew it would be good because it's Adam Sandler, but I was like, this kind of seems a little wacky, but I was definitely laughing in a lot of places. I love that Adam Sandler, became his own twin female version of himself.'cause they, there's a storyline based around Jack and Jill who are all our fraternal twins. their interactions together are really interesting. Their personalities and how, they interact and the storyline that unfolds is. There's a lot to be said for mental health, but also just it's funny and fun to watch. I think, it, kind of starts out with, we get an introduction to. Jack played by, well, Jack and Jill are both Adam Sandler. Anyone can tell.

Erin:

it's not like they just, just like we had talked about like in Waterboy with the really bad wigs for Red and Coach Klein, and so now it's like they're not really trying to pretty up Jill that much.

Tanya:

right. they were letting her be. Her, yeah, she was an interesting looking gal. Adam Sandler. It's a good thing he was born male. but, that's kind of part of the joke. But we see his life we're introduced to his life first. Jack and he's this high level, um, execut producer or advertised advertising exec for commercials. Yeah. He, he for commercials. Yeah. I

Erin:

think he, it looks like he directs, like, it looks like he's, I don't know if he owns the company because I think his name is on something.

Tanya:

Yeah, it is. It looks like he owns it with someone. And, so he's very successful. You see like, he has a very nice home wife, two kids, things like that. The wife played by Katie Holmes. and yeah, so you kind of see, you know, okay, this guy's got a lot going for him. And then they start talking about the visit, with Jill. His sister. And you can kind of see that Jack is not too thrilled to have her. He's kind of, you know, not very excited. Seems like she's kind of a burden. And his wife, Katie Holmes, I can't remember her, her name. Is it Elaine? No, I think it's, it's. Is it Erin? Yes. Okay. How did I not remember that? Okay. I thought, Elaine, you're, wait a minute. That

Erin:

name sounds familiar. How do I know the name? Erin?

Tanya:

Okay. So Erin. All right. So that's, um, that's easy enough. I should remember that. Um, but yeah, Erin, is like, you know, try to be nice to your sister. she seems like she kind of understands that Jill is kind of fragile we learned that their mother has just passed away within the. past year Jill is still living in the Bronx where I guess they grew up. Jill was pretty close to the mom and Jack kind of seems to be in his own world out in la He's in la, right? Yep. La And, kind of living his life and kind of separate. Jill is just all emotions and unfiltered emotions. Yeah. And, Jack is kind of more, you know, business, business first and kind of like, let's act like civilized people and you know, kind of that type of, you have that dichotomy of the, the two personalities between them. Yeah. When, when she comes to town, she's flying into la from the Bronx. you just see right off the bat, she's a wild character. She's wild. She has 50 bags,

Erin:

50 humongous bags. What should have been an indication to Jack?

Tanya:

like Yeah. Like, she's probably staying longer than I thought. It's a two day

Erin:

visit. she doesn't have plans of

Tanya:

And she also brings her bird poopy who's like, what is it, a cockatoo or something, or, I think so. But it's her

Erin:

best friend. I like how she's, like, you brought the bird. She's like, well, he's my best friend.

Tanya:

friend. Yeah. Like she's just, yeah, she's so like, open and, and authentically herself. Like she's not embarrassed by, by these things that some people might kind of, you know. Maybe try to hide, but she's just herself. Mm-hmm. and we start to see tension between, well, with Jack, with Jill more. I don't think Jill has any tension. Jill actually wants to spend more time with Jack and have twin time. She wants to cuddle with him, and he's like, no, no, I'm a grown man. I'm not getting in that. And there's a lot of kind of, you can sense that Jack is very distant. He is like, you know, I'm a family man. I'm a grown adult, you know, and she's very much like, I wanna have twin time. You know, like, it's her, you know, she, she misses him and she's like, you know, you pointed out she's grieving their mom and he doesn't really mm-hmm. He doesn't actually really bring it up too much, you know, and no, he never

Erin:

Yeah. You know, it's just because this is, I assume it's probably the first holidays that they've had without the mom every single thing Jill mentions like, well, mom, mom said to pack, you know, pack extra mom, what about this mom said that, you know, every single thing. In the movie, she brings up to something she learned from her mom or something mom told us, or so she's very much in the forefront of her thoughts.

Tanya:

Yeah. Yeah. It's something that like, she's carrying her, her, with her kind of like trying to keep her alive. She's, she's thinking about her and she's, still processing. Probably her grief in that, and she really wants to be close to her brother the way that they were. And Jack is just not having it. He's just not super into it. He thinks it's weird. He kind of finds her loud and brash and annoying and the opposite of what he wants to appear as. Yeah. and you really see that in the Thanksgiving dinner, with, Aaron's in-laws are there, her parents and then the two kids. And Otto, the homeless man, unhoused person, who is, is there, you know, that gets invited from the, the shelter that the mother-in-law works at?

Erin:

at or volunteered and she's like, and. You know, we're bringing, bringing auto, which I thought was funny too. Like, they bring auto, it doesn't look like they really offered a bath or a shower. And just like, he still has like holy shirts and sweat, you know, whatever's happening. Jacket, and it's just kind of, it's kind of funny. It's just like, all right, that's their, their good. You know, helping.

Tanya:

It's kind of like, you know, you kind of see this feeling of like Yeah, that's our good deed. Like they're very much kind of image conscious of like, we're good people because we invited this person back. Yeah. This is like what we do. And then you have. Jill is such a contrast to that. She's just loud, says what's on her mind. She, starts whispering at dinner like, is he homeless? You know, he's not whispering at all.

Erin:

what are you whispering with a bullhorn? You know, it's like, oh my god. You know, like, but, but even the homeless guy, Otto, he, he is like. I don't know. It's probably like, not that he appreciates it, but it's probably like, all right, this girl, this woman is like, not trying to just give me, you know, like. Attention just because they feel like they have to, to make themselves a better person. She's just like

Tanya:

Just for their own, their own image. Like this is an authentic person. You know, someone who's just really interacting with me the way that a person might feel. Right. You know, rather than like, oh, we're fine. we're doing everything for you. We're inviting you in for a meal, and then, you know, he'll go back to where he goes to.

Erin:

So there was one thing that made me laugh. It was like, yeah, then he'll go back to his home. Less. Less.

Tanya:

Oh man. And we are not laughing at that. Like clearly we're not laughing at that situation for anyone. It's just the way it was in the movie. So please don't mistake that. yes. But it's just, the movie is just ridiculous but hilarious. Yeah. And then I, I love how, you know, Jill really wants to sit next to Jack, and she's like, the mother-in-law's is in the seat next to him. She's like, but that's my seat. Why would you be in my seat? And Oh, and, and the mother-in-law's like, oh, I can get up. Just trying to be polite and like very image conscious, like civility, you know? And she's like, oh, well if, do you wanna sit there? And then she's like, I, I don't know. She's just like, you're putting me

Erin:

in an awkward spot. Yeah. But it's also interesting too,'cause like you could see the power. With a mother, with Erin's mom, like where she's like, you know, she didn't wanna move. and did she know that that's where Jill usually sits? You know,'cause she's probably been to Thanksgiving dinners there before. So it's interesting that's, she's true.

Tanya:

So, yeah. who knows? Like it was kind of a power move. Like it was kind of like I'm closer to the head of the table or something. And like kind of like, oh, well Jill can just find a spot wherever, kind of thing. But yeah, Jill is just like, okay, I'll go sit over here and then, starts whispering with a bullhorn You just start to realize that Jill is the exact opposite of Jack. She's very unfiltered. She's very much just says whatever comes to mind. She has very kind of loud, brash, fashion sense and that's her personality as well her emotions are very

Erin:

Jack is, yeah. A little, little more filtered and like reserved. Reserved and image conscious.'cause everything is like, okay, I have to think of how this is gonna affect my, my business and the people I serve. You know? So he probably carries that at home where we're, Jill is just like, ah, you know, like all of her emotions. Anytime she's upset, she runs away. Which is Yeah. And cries. Yeah. which might be. Something that is learned behavior in the past. Maybe she was rewarded from that with her mom or so, you know, like who knows what roles the twins had growing up, but,

Tanya:

or maybe it could have been that, that maybe she never really got any, I mean, I don't know with, with the mom, but maybe she never got that kind of attention back from her brother, you know, because they see when they're growing up. Like, she's always kind of trying to like, get his attention and be like, near his prom date and like hit, hit the date with the tennis ball and like, she kind of just wants his attention and so I think she kind of never really got that from him. And she's like, well, I'm just gonna almost throw like a tantrum. But yeah, she, she definitely is, is very, big emotions and kind of dysregulated, but mm-hmm. You, you sense that it's kind of like, you know, she really is, there's heart behind that with probably her mom probably feeling not close to her brother when she really wants to feel close, feeling alone now, because she's alone back in the Bronx. Mm-hmm. And, You know, and, and she also has indicated she doesn't have like a partner, you know, she's in her forties and doesn't have any kids or anything. Yeah. So she's, she's very alone. Yeah. She's never been in love,

Erin:

Never. And that was like a part where you see Jack, Almost having a human connection with his sister when she starts talking about that. She's never had a relationship, never been in love,'cause it's, everyone always was attracted to Jack, you know, like, and so that's when they start making that eHarmony or whatever they end up doing like the soulmate thing. And at first he's like, ah, ha ha. But then when he sees her. For the mascara running and she's just laying on her bed, hugging her bird, you know,'cause she cried herself to sleep because nobody wanted to date her. So he is like, all right, let me do this on Craigslist. You know, just to find someone to date her. Yeah. I mean it was in a malicious way just'cause he is like, all right, let me just put all these things that aren't really true, but I just want somebody to connect with her.'cause he also wanted her to leave his house eventually.

Tanya:

And like kind of not to deal with her emotions, right? Yeah, like to, like, the emotions are too big for him. He gets very uncomfortable around it. And he like, kind of just wants it to stop. Yeah. So it is kind of selfish, but it also is kind of caring and he's like, oh, well, you know, she's a knockout and they show when she got knocked out from the wheel. Yeah. He is like taking, like, he's like, well, I'm kind of stretching, you know, semantics. I'm stretching the truth. Yeah, yeah. but yeah, and then she gets some attention, you know, the guy is, is not, You know, she goes out on a date and the guy is just kind of runs away from her. Yeah, he's like on the ceiling. Ceiling Norm,

Erin:

norm McDonald.

Tanya:

Yeah. It's like I can't be around her. Like why did he

Erin:

even like, because as soon as he saw her, he is like, wait a minute, this is, but, but I'm thinking like he saw the picture because it directed him to the dating website. So he saw the picture of her eating the sandwich.

Tanya:

wonder if he maybe didn't even check, maybe he just saw that and was just like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, maybe he just was like, oh, this sounds nice. I'll just give her a call. You know, like, maybe he didn't really check it that close or something. Yeah. He's like, oh, wait a minute,

Erin:

it's Adam Sandler an address.

Tanya:

And she's talking about like, she's like, well, I do want kids, so maybe if this date goes well, maybe we gotta hurry. Like, she kind of scared the crap outta him on the first date. He's like, he's

Erin:

like, here's this ugly woman, and. Wanting to have children with me. Yeah. We just met maybe on the first date.

Tanya:

Yeah. I'm actually, I was surprised he didn't just kind of like walk out, like, why did he actually go to the bathroom and try to hide? Yeah. That's why I was wondering too, like why didn't

Erin:

he leave? Why was he, what was he planning on staying there for hours on the ceiling? like just hang in there.

Tanya:

That's us overanalyzing it. But I mean, still Yeah, we, we have, we have to, you know how we are. Mm-hmm. people. But, yeah. And then she, you know, ends up, Then, then there's the, oh, she meets Al Pacino at the game, right, at the basketball game. Yeah. And, this is something that Jack has been, they've been, his, the company was giving him pressure to get Al Pacino to be in a Dunkin Donuts commercial. Mm-hmm. Because they wanted it to be like a dunk ccino or Right cappuccino. Like there's all these like, or Al, Al Al Pacino puns, PAC

Erin:

Al, not Al Pacino,

Tanya:

Al dunk, ccino Al. Yeah. Whatever. Mochaccino, or I guess there's like a million of'em, but Yeah. And so he's like, oh, this is perfect. And immediately Al Pacino just takes us, like he's hanging out with Johnny Depp, which I loved. and he's like, what? You know, Al Pacino is like in disguise.'cause he doesn't wanna be recognized. He's like, what is this? You're supposed to be like my rabbi Eye or something. going on here?

Erin:

Yeah. Then I liked it when, Adam and Johnny Depp were. Roasting Al Pacino. He is like, oh, I thought he looked like Bill Penn Lawn or you know, they're just like making fun of it. Like, yeah, right in front. It's like our more Castro Then Tanya and I we're talking before when we were pregaming that Johnny Depp, you know, so we get to have the connections. I know he only made a short cameo, but, there is a connection. We've done so many episodes. There is a connection with Johnny Depp too.

Tanya:

Yeah. Who knew? we had that obsession going and in our Adam Sandler, there's these worlds colliding. Yes. our obsessions are colliding, so

Erin:

we just don't have Winona or Cher jumping in, but that's okay.

Tanya:

Yeah. Cher. Yeah. And Winona. but more

Erin:

sessions. But yeah, I thought it was really funny, like of all the people Al Pacino is like obsessed, becomes obsessed with

Tanya:

He's like in love with love at first sight, sends her over that hotdog with like his name and car's number and ketchup. Jack is like, yeah, this is his end to get him to do the commercial. And she's just like, I don't know. I've never, you know, like she says to, I've never even heard of, I've never heard of you. She's not impressed. Yeah. And so I guess, you know, when she does go out on, or no, she doesn't, she avoids him. Right. it's, when it's at the birthday party that he, he's like just hiding in the closet. Yeah. And is like, Hey, come on a date with me to Europe. You know? Yeah. Or just come, come on a date with me to my house. And he has like an array of cakes for her and she's like in love with the cakes'cause she gets her own cake and everything. Yeah. She's like, this is great. That's all I wanted. She feels like special. And then he's like, oh, I want you to hit the, stickball because like that's the Bronx connection. Yeah. And then

Erin:

she's like, what? This isn't me. I don't play this.'cause he's trying to relive his youth and childhood thinking like, okay, well there's this connection.'cause we grew up in the same place. She's still there. Mm-hmm. But she's like, I never played stickball, you know, like

Tanya:

She's like, what is this? Like, she doesn't even know what it is. When he talks about LA Man, the Man of Lamancha, she's like, oh, the one with the hunchback, like the hunchback of Notre Dame. She's like, oh, yeah, yeah. she gets it so mixed up everything like so foolishly. But yeah, I think she breaks his Oscar or something. And she's like, oh, I'm sorry. I hope you'll be another one. He's like, no, I should, but kind of like little slight there. And he's just in love with her and she's just like, you know, when he starts to put his hands on the stick and, trying to flirt with her and, be weird. And she's like, I think I know what you're doing. And it's gross. Like, it just like wants to get away from him. Yeah.

Erin:

She's like, I do not wanna kiss you. Get away from me.

Tanya:

not into him, which is like so funny because you just wouldn't, you wouldn't picture that, but Yeah. And it, you know, in that, I think that's really interesting with Jill because she is authentically, I think herself, like, she's like, mm-hmm. I don't find him, even though like the world admires him, like, I'm not into that. Yeah. You know, like even though I know like he's this huge star, I'm not into him because of that. I want to feel like I like someone mm-hmm. And really are, you know, connecting with them. And he's just kind of obsessed with me and she finds it weird and she's not like, she's not into the whole image thing, which, Jack really wants her to be

Erin:

interesting too.'cause he, Jack is so, it seems so starstruck and like his whole, everything revolves around that. Jill isn't, she doesn't even know movies. Like when they're talking about It's a Wonderful Life, and she's like, no, no, no. The other one with Jimmy Stewart, the other, you know, she's describing the entire movie and they're like a wonderful Life. Like the exact way. They're like, it's what?

Tanya:

She's like, why do you keep saying that? No. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. yeah, she's just silly about she doesn't, she doesn't know movies. Her, her movie trivia is very off. So you, you really kind of see there's, there's a huge difference there. and you see, Jack getting upset at her when she kind of refuses Al Pacino.'cause he is like, oh, that ruins my chances. But he's like not taking her feelings into account. And, yeah, then she kind of disappears and, you know, wants to go home and he's like, oh. And he ends up talking to Al Pacino. And Al Pacino basically kind of is like, I'll do the commercial if like, I can get with your sister kind of thing. Yeah. Which is kind of gross. You lost some points there. Pacino. but yeah. And so he, Jack invites her on the, the European cruise that he didn't want her on, but feels like okay, I can get her to go on a date mm-hmm. Convince her to go on a date so I can,'cause he really wants Al Pacino to do the Dunking Donuts commercial.

Erin:

it's a make or break for his career. So Jack is right, right now it's, you know, again, so polar opposite of his sister. He's thinking more in terms of what can help me financially and career wise, where Jill is so led by her heart and family. And emotion. it's, it is very interesting too. it's like these sibling dynamics, but it's also. Showing like what is, you know, what drives them, what's the driver for both of them?

Tanya:

Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's interesting when they show them growing up, and it seems like Jack does have more of the opportunities, like he kind of is more attractive to his peers, He's less socially awkward and that sets him up to kind of be like, these are the important values. Whereas Jill is kind of more of an outcast and I think she really focuses on the things that are really kind of, you know, like you have good connections with. And you would be able to say like, Hey, this is something that's actually. Genuinely important That you would, you know, like, yeah, like family and, being nice to people. Being kind to people even though she doesn't have a filter. That's just kind of her personality. It's not, she's not trying to be unkind.

Erin:

She just, that's just the way she, well, she's not hiding anything. She's not. She's not a phony, she's authentic. Right. You know, which is again, really opposite of everything that Jack, you know, surrounds himself with. So if he's with a bunch of actors or Hollywood people or anything, a lot of them are probably not being their, their true self. And it's different than just living in the Bronx, probably living in the same house you've lived in your whole life even when, She goes to eat with, Felipe's family, and she's like, oh, well, I don't know. I've never had Mexican because I don't serve it at my deli. So she's probably only ever, you know, she probably just like her little, her little bubble is like whatever is in her neighborhood. So she's not really exposing herself. not because she doesn't want to, but just because. This is who, you know, I've always gone to the deli. I know the people and it's probably just comfort for her.

Tanya:

And so she kind of had to find her own place, like with her mom in her, in her hometown. And with Jack, he was worshiped by these people, so he went to a place where he could be kind of worshiped and be in that world. Right? And so it actually kind of turned out, to be something that worked against him in the end. Right. When she does go to Felipe's family picnic, it is really interesting because you see her. Genuinely happy and enjoying herself and the families like, just thinks she's great Except the grandma, because she keeps whacking her in the head and they have to keep waking her up with the jalapenos The pinata and that was one I was shocked.

Erin:

It wasn't Steve Buscemi, but it was some other person

Tanya:

with the googly eyes.

Erin:

seemed, it seemed like that. it was nice to see her. Yeah, that was pretty funny. It was nice to see her be herself, be her like obnoxious or loud or whatever self, and everybody in the family was like, oh my gosh, this is awesome. We love this. We accept this.

Tanya:

Yeah, they appreciated her. They appreciated like her, all her traits and, and they really thought she was, she was great and she had a good time there. And so, Yeah, and he, he seemed to really like her too. Yeah. He was, even when she had the shimmy changa bombs or whatever

Erin:

Yeah. Well, and I thought it was interesting too, like even when they were playing soccer. Here. She, you know,'cause she's always such a clumsy buffoon, you know, like, you know, with the jet ski, with the stick ball, with everything. Like, it's just like, oh my God, what is she gonna break? but this, she's like playing soccer perfectly. It's like, yeah. You know, it's like, it took her a minute. A pro took her a minute. She had to hit grandma in the head with her shoe at first, but then it's like, let me get this.

Tanya:

she did real good. She was like a Ronaldo out there. she was just running up and down the field and they loved her and they picked her up and one of the cousins is like, peeps under, and he is like, told you, Nope, it's really a girl. It's not a guy. You know, like they bet on it. But yeah. And so you see there's like an authentic connection there, but Jack keeps wanting to force, The connection with Al Pacino for his own career and financial gain. but yeah, you just see that kind of set up and then, When Al Pacino wants a date with her when they're on the cruise, he's like, oh, crap. Like, you know, she's not gonna do it. So he ends up dressing up as her. Because that literally is her. But, you know, but it's not, it's like,

Erin:

wait a minute, they look so much alike now. Oh wait, it's the same, same actor playing the same person.

Tanya:

she climbs up the ladder of the helicopter. Oh my God, that looks so scary. and, and they whisker off to, or he whisker off to date in, in Europe and, Al Pacino kind of. Really starts to, you know, like kind of let his, his feelings out and say he really likes her. And, and she's like, but what do you like about me? And this is Jack asking this. Like, why you could have any girl in the world. Yeah. he's like,'cause you're authentic. You're you, you're like me of the Bronx. Yeah. Like, that's a time like, you know, something special to him. He is just so attracted to it. And, and just her realness and her, her authenticity, her kindness. Mm-hmm. And her love for, for people. And you know, and then he says like, you know, Jack is, Jack is a, a synco. Like he just kisses butt. He's a, yeah, he's a hack, you know? so then I think. Jack really starts to see like, oh wait, he starts to see kind of some of that from Al Pacino, some of the crappy Dish show.

Erin:

Yeah. You know, you know something else about Al Al Cap Pacino? you know what I liked? I thought it was so funny every single time, you know,'cause Al Pacino was in The Godfather and all these other Italian type of movies and whatever, and every time he was talking Italian, they would make for the, the words that. You know, they translate it as Garley goopy Gopi book because he's probably not speaking real Italian. It just like made up gibberish.

Tanya:

No, that was a joke. Yeah. He wasn't Yeah. In, in, in the French and everything. Yeah, because he was like, sir, I don't understand you. Yeah, just gar go not speaking anything. Yeah. He wasn't, he, he literally wasn't speaking French or Spanish or Italian. It's so funny. He was just like. And, and he was like, oh, okay. Like, like you're not speaking it, he thinks he's speaking it, you know, and they, they're just like, okay, they oblig or whatever. Yeah. because yeah, the French guy even says to him, I don't understand what you're saying. You're not speaking French, you're not speaking, you're not speaking any language. Yeah. Like, what is that? that's so funny. You know, Al Pacino just in his world is like, yeah, I'm,

Erin:

I know what I'm doing.

Tanya:

Oh my God. Yeah. but yeah, I think that, you know, then of course Jack realizes the error of his ways after they get into a knockdown, drag out fight, which is just weird and hilarious.'cause it just makes al Pacino more attracted to her. Right. And then towards the end we see that, Adam wants to make things right because he sees that, Jill is the real deal. Mm-hmm. And she just wants family and you know, that's what's important, not this commercial. Yeah. And so it's kind of that standard ending. But of course, in a funny way with Adam Sandler and all his gang at the end.

Erin:

that was nice too.'cause we've talked in the other Adam Sandler. Movie. So this is also, you know, about the movie, but also probably about Adam Sandler as a person. Like how important family and friends are to him. Like it probably in real life because it's, he always has the same troop. I mean like it's, you know, from, you know, even John McEnroe is in the movie where we saw him in Mr. Deeds and then, you know, of course, of course everybody at the table is just. You know, like his, you know, his usual, the usual suspect, you know, like David Spade as like ugly Monica, who thinks she's so beautiful and it's like the Jersey Shore. And I could not figure out who Dana Carvey was in the movie.

Tanya:

the, the puppet, the puppet guy at the beginning with the orange hair. Oh. The one that was like in the Pepto-Bismol commercial with, Regis.

Erin:

And he's like, I have to be at Sesame Street soon.

Tanya:

Yeah, it's, that was actually Regis Fils last appearance movie before he died appearance. Oh, wow. Yeah. Which is like, I can't believe he died that long ago.'cause that was in 2011. Yeah. But yeah, so like he just kind of had all his gang there and it was just funny the way, you know, then Jill fights, David Spade, whatever her name. Monica. Monica Ugly. Monica. And tries and f her off of Katie Holmes.'cause of course Monica's like I dumped him and then gets mad and attacks. Yeah. Aaron, you know, and is like, she's like, what the hell? What do I do? but yeah, it's just, it's funny. And then Al Pacino comes in and as the man of Lamancha and is like, I am not your true knight. And he sees that what's best for her. Yeah.

Erin:

Of course. she has no idea who he is because she has no idea anything about movies or plays or,

Tanya:

She's just like, what are you doing? Like, who are you? Are you a Hobbit? He attacks the fan and he is like, that's a fan. And he is like, no, it's this, this device. But then we see the happy ending with Felipe and his kids, It's just the natural connection and that's who Jill ends up with. and I guess Al Pacino ends up doing the commercial at the end. We see him viewing it and he's like, this must never be seen. But yeah, I loved the commercial. I thought it was amazing. Come on, Dunkin Donuts. Release the commercial. Yeah, it was fun. it was a great movie. I think that it was one of those movies I didn't see of Adam Sandler, but I'm glad I watched it. I'm glad. Yeah. I, I don't know why, I don't

Erin:

know if I was like, oh my God, this looks so dumb. And, but it was really funny. It was dumb, but it was really funny. And it did talk, I mean, it did have some psychological things. I mean, like we talk about, you know, the grief of the mother, like, and like being stuck in family sibling relationships, you know, just identities, you know, it's mm-hmm. There's a lot of different things.

Tanya:

Yes. And Johnny Depp continues the circle and all the celebrities that were in it. Yeah, yeah. just good stuff and all his gang. It's just all around. If you haven't seen it, go for it, because I think that was kind of one of his lesser known movies,

Erin:

Yeah. Yeah. It was. I never seen it. And yeah, but I think, and it was really funny and what I like about Adam, like he's very juvenile. But I do like that it's like, there's usually really laugh out loud stuff.'cause I watched it with the kids and my husband last night and kids were loving it. they love Adam Sandler. we're on this Adam Sandler fan club here.

Tanya:

I love it. Yeah. Adam Sandler is, Pretty amazing. And we're always gonna have Adam Sandler probably connect somehow in Some of our episodes, if not most of them.

Erin:

I mean, there's probably a few that we won't do because. Tanya doesn't like comedy romance, so we'll have to find other,

Tanya:

rom-coms.

Erin:

I

Tanya:

I probably would make an exception though for like 51st dates and not, like, I'm not a, I could probably make an exception. Yeah, I don't know.

Erin:

That one just drives me insane. I am not a big 51st date. Yeah. I've seen it a few times. I'm like. Ugh. I don't know if it's Drew Barrymore or what. It probably is. I don't know. Or it's just like, feel, feel the movie's too long. Something about it. She doesn't have her memory. She has her memory now. All right. Just stop trying to force, force it. The chemistry is just

Tanya:

off too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would like, there's some that like Adam Sandler made with Jennifer Aniston, like the Netflix ones. Those, those are like kind,

Erin:

are really good. I would say we should do one of this. Are those romcoms or are those like mystery thriller kind of? I think it's kind of romcoms kind of. I don't know. They're really good. There's a

Tanya:

little bit of like romcom and they're like, I would like, I liked. I would, you know, I did watch those and I thought those were funny. Like they're kind of comedy, a little bit of rom, a little bit of like thriller. Like I, I would do those, you know? The murder mystery. I think

Erin:

there's like one or two

Tanya:

Yeah. And I think there's a new one coming out soon

Erin:

I think I read somewhere. Yeah, those are good. I would say that, there's a bunch, looking at the list, there's like a million of his movies. There's probably a couple that we might be like, this is just too dumb. We're not gonna do, but

Tanya:

Okay, so now we're gonna come to our fun question. All right. Which I just thought of. so this really has nothing to do with the movie. Just a little, maybe a little bit. But the coffee debate. And remember, you're a New Englander, okay? Dunking Donuts are Starbucks, oh, dunking

Erin:

Donuts all the way. I actually like, the only way I can tolerate Starbucks is if I get one of those. Flavored drinks, You know, so you're basically drink like only Starbucks I like is like the white chocolate mocha, but I can, I can have just a Dunkin, you know, just cream and sugar or milk and sugar, you know, like you don't have to do, or just black.'cause it's not gross. I feel like Starbucks tastes like burnt coffee. See, I feel

Tanya:

I am a betrayal to New England. Oh, Tanya. I'm not a Starbucks person, but I will choose Starbucks over Dunking Donuts. And it's because I had a bad, like two bad experiences in a row with Dunking Donuts where I got really sick Oh. Off of it. And I don't know what it was. But I just was like, turned off from it after. Yeah.

Erin:

was throwing up.'cause for, there's only, there's one, a couple Dunking Donuts where I live that I won't get. Because they don't understand if you just say milk and sugar or whatever. Yeah. If they don't they'll put like 50 in. But there's some that understand because you know, like when you're in Rhode, Rhode Island, well New England, you could say like, I wanna, you know, regular. And they'll know how to put the cream and sugar in here. You can't say regular.'cause they'll be like, huh, what? But What do you mean regular? They should train, they should really train everybody what a regular is. So, but this, yeah, there's a couple that if you just say milk and sugar or cream and sugar, they do like the, you know, three scoops or whatever it's supposed to be and Right.'cause I worked at, I worked at Honeydew and something else when I was younger, so I understand. Oh, honeydew. Yeah. Shaken, not stirred. yes. Oh my gosh. But yeah, but Starbucks, I do like the consistency, so that's one thing I do like better. If you're out of New England. Is the consistency with Starbucks, because I did, you know? Right. Yeah. I have the one Duncan that I go to,'cause I know it's gonna be consistent, but other ones I'm like, eh, I don't wanna go to that one. So if I'm at other places, it will be Starbucks because just, I want my coffee made. Correct. I'm such a jerk. Right.

Tanya:

But no, that's, that's exactly, that's the way I feel too. And the, the, the, the feeling of like the poison that you're not gonna get and everything. Poison. Yeah. Yeah. Like if I have a ch, like, I usually actually make my coffee like almost 90, 98% of the time at home. Like, it's only if I'm like away at like something. Yeah. Like, I don't know, whatever. Yeah. And if there's a Dunking Donuts or a Starbucks, and that's the only options, I'll usually go to Starbucks because of the consistency. Drink it this

Erin:

morning. Say I have a dunking and

Tanya:

you got, well, there we go. that's right in line. Yeah. it's a tough one because I want to say Dunking Donuts, but I just can't, with the bad experiences I've had. Yeah.

Erin:

if there was honeydew here, I would pick honeydew over at Dunking Donuts. Just because Honeydew has good coffee. Honey do just knows how to make the coffee. And I think it is the shaken, not stirred. Especially if you get iced, they'll pour it in the two different cups and the Yeah, and it's just, that's a good flavor. It is just, I don't know, just something about it,

Tanya:

or like, I know this isn't really New England. This is more like, I think it's originally Canadian. Tim Horton's actually has some really good coffee. Yeah. I've never had a Tim Horton coffee. I heard they're really

Erin:

good.

Tanya:

It's pretty good. Yeah. Like I wouldn't say I'm like obsessed with it, but I honestly, the coffee I like the best. And this is, this is just simply because I know what I like is the one I make at home and I, I know, like I grind it fresh and I know what coffee beans I like, you know what I mean? And that's the one I like the best.

Erin:

I used to be a coffee snob because I used to work at a couple coffee places Couple coffee places in Rhode Island and then honeydew for a little bit. And then, so it's like, I, I used to only drink French roast because of the, or dark, you know, like, because that was what it was like newer and it was like, okay, the darker the roast, the higher the caffeine. But yeah, I dunno, I thought it was the lighter, the lighter the roast, the higher the caffeine. Mm-hmm. No, I think it's the opposite. Unless I'm insane. But no, I think the darker, the roast, it's like, it's more caffeine intake light, lighter roast. It's like less, I'm pretty sure.

Tanya:

I think it's the other way around really.'cause I like, yeah, because it's like the more blonde, like the, I don't remember how I know this, but. Something is sticking in my head saying it's the lighter roast.

Erin:

But I used to always like darker roast better.

Tanya:

maybe it wasn't, maybe that's just now. Maybe like when they first came out with, I don't know. No, you're right. Maybe I'm just talking out of my butt. Oh my gosh. You're right. Maybe I was taught wrong. maybe there was something with the dark roast that you had that they were like extra caffeinated. Do you know what I mean?'cause they would always say it. So that probably was, So maybe. I mean, either that or they could've, added something in there. Yeah. So maybe that's probably what it was. Yeah. I it supposed be to be healthy at the same time. It's supposed to be

Erin:

healthier too.

Tanya:

Yeah, the dark roast is definitely better for you.

Erin:

Yeah.

Tanya:

Yeah. But like, it's confusing because I think there used to be more things added in and probably like the advertising, like,'cause I had it in my brain too, like that, like Dark Roast, more like, is more caffeine. Yeah. And I think that's'cause of the advertising. But I looked it up or somebody told me something. Oh, it was one of my friends. Oh yeah. Here's something

Erin:

it's like, while a common misconception is that Dark Roast coffee has more caffeine, the actual coffee content per bean is quite similar across the different roast.

Tanya:

so none of'em are, yeah, so they're all pretty. So it says light versus

Erin:

dark. The roasting process differs, the flavor profile, but it doesn't impact the caffeine. So it's the same dark or light. so everybody, you learn something, don't waste your money. Don't on different coffee unless you like it for the taste. It's the same caffeine. Who knew? We've all learned a big lesson.

Tanya:

you know, it's strange'cause I, I like the flavor of the darker roast better. Yeah. Like, I don't like light roast. Yeah. But I'm wondering if, like, I think light roast is not very popular. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong in this. And I think maybe that's a selling point. You may try to be like, oh, there's more caffeine in it.

Erin:

like, it's better on your stomach and stuff. I don't know. That's funny. I used to always think it was like, I don't know. That's weird. Who knew?

Tanya:

Well, I thought the lighter roasts were so, I don't know. Maybe it's just been advertised that way. I don't learn something new every day and we'll probably forget it the next time too. Yeah, we will.

Erin:

today. That's all that matters. We're teaching you guys something and you're hearing it live or recorded? Live recorded live. Even though Erin worked at a lot of different coffee places in her journey of finding herself, she does not know that I drink a

Tanya:

lot of coffee and I've read so I should know that too.

Erin:

all I know is Honey Do has good coffee.

Tanya:

They definitely do.

Erin:

Come on, honey. Do you come to Florida?

Tanya:

yes. Oh my god. I don't see many honey dos around, around in Western Mass where I'm Really, but yeah, there's just closer to, closer to the Rhode Island line. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. Kind of the southeast part. Yep. That's right around where I went to school. Yep. But yeah. So anyways, let us know what you think about coffee and, and what you know or didn't know because we clearly were all mixed up. Yeah. But now I think we've, I think we've set the record straight, so Yeah.

Erin:

It's, um, Starbucks. Starbucks and Dunkin for, yeah. For, you know, but that's so funny though. Do you have, sorry. No, what were you gonna say?

Tanya:

I was gonna say, do you have like a favorite type of coffee, that you get a lot? Like if you make it at home

Erin:

kind of thing? I usually get Starbucks. Yeah. Yeah. I, no, that's, that's good. In the bag, if I'm picking myself, I'll get Starbucks'cause I don't have a grinder, so I'll just, um, I'll just get, I do like, because then I can make it as dark or, um. I don't know.'cause I, I always feel like sometimes I feel like Starbucks, they burn their coffee. Like if you're just getting the regular, cup of coffee. I feel like they keep it on the thing too long and it tastes burnt.

Tanya:

probably do.'cause they have to like, make it, they probably just have to keep it heated. Yeah,

Erin:

And that's,

Tanya:

I'm pretty sure most people that work at Starbucks, if they're hearing this, and I think I've heard that.'cause I have a. A friend that she used to work at Starbucks and she would, yeah, she would say a lot of things and, yeah.'cause I and some other, yeah, because I know,

Erin:

again, my past history, it's like you don't, like, you have to keep it on the warmer and then you only keep it on the warmer for so long, otherwise it will burn and then it'll affect, right. And then you have to clean it, you know, clean the pot with the vinegar or whatever, so, yeah. but yeah, but sometimes I'm like, I just want a cup of coffee, like a regular coffee. I don't want a flavored, crappy thing, but I just, but then it always tastes burnt and I'm like, Ugh, foiled again.

Tanya:

I like the pikes, the pikes roast or whatever. Like that one is pretty good at Starbucks. Yeah, it's a pretty standard one. And I think that it's probably just like I got a batch that wasn't burnt yet or whatever.

Erin:

Why do they have burnt coffee? I don't know.

Tanya:

I think Starbucks, I think it was the marketing of Starbucks of like how effective it was that like, this is where you get coffee, this is where you get like. You know, if you want standardized coffee, you can make it your way. And there's all these, like new drinks that they bring in at times, they're like, new combinations. And it's just kind of like, it's in like the American psyche and honestly it's all over the world really. I don't know if they have the same level of importance other countries, but if certainly in the United States they do. Yeah. You know, like that's kind of the psyche of it. Yeah. and that was definitely established in like the late nineties, early two thousands. Yeah. And I think it just has stuck, you know? But I, I really don't, I, that's, that's just my own opinion. I don't really know anything, so don't ever listen to me as anything factual. But that's just my own. Yeah, that's just my own thoughts. Yeah. glad you're listening. And I'm saying like, I don't really know anything. but it's the truth. yeah. But yeah, so, so anyways, alright, let's, let's, let's close this out. Let's wrap it up. Let us know all of your thoughts on, on any of this coffee included, you know, whatever. Adam Coffee, Jimmy,

Erin:

Adam, Johnny Depp.

Tanya:

Jimmy Buffet you, if you wanna let us. So much Jimmy Buffett. Go for it. What's wrong with, with me? We're just, we're all over the, it's Monday, it's Monday people, I mean, I don't know if everybody knows, but we film this in Monday, Monday morning into like right around lunch, you know, time to two kind of thing. yeah, usually, and that's, it's, it's a time. Yeah.

Erin:

we're hungry.

Tanya:

Yeah, we're hungry, we're tired. We work around clients and yeah, our minds are just all over the place. But yeah. Anyways, we hope you enjoyed this. don't forget to follow us on our socials. We're on everything, including YouTube. Write us a review, refer us, tell a friend. Tell an enemy. whatever you gotta do. Get the word out and give us five star review. We'd love that. Share it.

Erin:

And don't forget, stay wicked and keep your mind well. All right. Have a great week. Well, I'll talk to you soon. Bye-bye. Bye guys.

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