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From Sandworms to Soul Trains: A Wicked Look at Beetlejuice Beetlejuice

• Erin Gray and Tanya Dos Santos • Season 3 • Episode 5

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In this episode of Wicked Psychotherapists, Tanya and Erin dive into the hauntingly hilarious world of Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. 

Join them as they explore Lydia’s burnout, Astrid’s teenage rebellion, and the surprising family dynamics that unfold in this quirky sequel. 

From sandworms and soul trains to ghostly humor and gothic vibes, we’re breaking down what Tim Burton’s vision reveals about grief, boundaries, and complicated relationships. 

Whether you’re a fan of the original or just meeting these strange and unusual characters, this episode promises laughter, insights, and maybe even a few chills.

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Tanya:

Hi everyone, it's Tanya. Hi, it's

Erin:

Erin and welcome to Wicked Psychotherapist.

Tanya:

We are now at this point. We are well into 2025 in the future when this will be released, but right now we are just on the kind of threshold of 24 25. In our world, so that's why you may still be seeing some Christmas y things. Well,

Erin:

snow is winter.

Tanya:

But So, today, off, you know, after that, but we all, you know, hope that you had a great Christmas. We realize it is now three weeks into January, but Hopefully that has settled the new year 2025. You're not writing 2024 anymore. Like I know Oh, yeah, i'm sure I will

Erin:

for the first couple months even now I still put the wrong year sometimes sometimes i'll still put like 2023 and it's 2024

Tanya:

me too or 2022 when it's like a 12 like The month is the 12th. I'll put 22 or 1990

Erin:

or something.

Tanya:

1988. Prime year. but yeah, so today we are talking about something pretty new. It's not, usually we go kind of far back, but this is a newish movie. It's the second installment of Beetle Juice, called Beetle Juice, Beetle Juice, a 2024 rendition that has, Winona, Jenna Ortega. and Catherine O'Hara, Willem Dafoe, he's always got those nice little random appearances, we are doing the 2024 Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, which Hopefully most of you have been able to watch if not, there are Spoilers in here, but i'm sure you've already heard them anyways Or if you're listening to this, you probably want to hear about We are just going to talk about some things that we we liked maybe some things that we kind of Didn't like so much or, or just kind of felt like it could be a little different,

Erin:

I actually liked it. I just watched it last night for the first time I wasn't sure how it was gonna go if it was just gonna be like a recreation of the first one but I was Pleasantly surprised for a couple moments. I actually was like, I think I like this better than the first one But then of course, there's some parts. I like this first one better but I did like the different layers of The different characters the new characters that they brought in. Of course the old ones that stayed But I did like it.

Tanya:

Yeah, I did too. I was reading a lot of reviews and people were saying, there were, unnecessary characters, they couldn't recapture it. You're never gonna recapture an original, that's a classic. it's just not gonna happen, so all you can do is try to do something maybe that's, putting its own spin on it, I wasn't really expecting it to be, like, Oh my gosh, it's got to just recreate this magic. It was a time, it was a place, it's like, lightning in a bottle. you can't necessarily do that, but I liked it too. I thought it was just nice to revisit that world because I really loved the original Beetlejuice. I thought it had some good moments. I loved the recreation of the mother daughter relationship between Lydia and Astrid that was Kind of mimicked from the original Beetlejuice with, Delia and Lydia. it was nice to revisit some of the characters. Like Beetlejuice, Lydia, Delia. and the Sandworm, some of the Underworld, all those characters, it was nice to see, it was nice to kind of be back in that, in the model of the world, on the attic, kind of was still there, and in pristine condition, which I thought was pretty

Erin:

Yeah, well, you know, that sheet covered, protected it from 30 years of dust, I guess.

Tanya:

Yeah, the gauzy sheet that protected it, like, it was just some, like, I don't know, antique or something. but yeah, so, we, I think, an interesting theme is we see Lydia, obviously grown up, she's probably what, in like her 40s or something like that, maybe early 50s, something like that. yeah, because it's like 36 years later, she was like 16, yeah, so probably like early 50s. but she is a medium, like a TV medium. So she banked on and shared with the world, her abilities to be able to talk to ghosts. So she, her whole life was affected by kind of where we saw her in the original Beelzebub.

Erin:

wasn't just the house that made her. see the ghost, which it's, you know, she now has this unlocked ability that it seems like she's really honed in

Tanya:

and made it her whole career. Yeah. Yeah. And she also is, at a time when it kind of opens up, she is burned out. She's not really feeling this career anymore because, she's probably channeling a lot of energy, which is similar to being a therapist, so we can sort of relate to that in a different way. she's just taken on too much with all these spirits and talking to them and channeling them, and so she's just really, really worn out. She's kind of looking to take a step back from that. She's also probably had to be on the road a lot and been away from her daughter. And so we see her in kind of a vulnerable, worn down place. There's some mental health issues present, kind of some anxiety, depression. We're not really clear what it is, but that's what it seems like she has

Erin:

anxiety and something cause she's taken, they show her. Taking pills or trying to take pills and then her boyfriend or stage manager at the time Rory He's like, oh, no, you can't take the pills and then he ends up enabling her by taking the pills out of the trash And they both take one,

Tanya:

Yeah, and She just kind of seems like a lot of stuff is kind of unprocessed there's the relationship strain with her daughter, that's really apparent, there's tension with her daughter Astrid, played by Jenna Ortega, which is amazing, I love that, because she played Wednesday, and the whole dark hair, pale look is my thing, we are being represented, so I always felt represented by them. as a young pale, dark features. Yeah, I did too, but now I, I don't, I don't embrace

Erin:

my dark hair anymore. I'm sorry.

Tanya:

that's okay. you can always change it if you ever need to. I can always change it. Let me go back. Yeah, if

Erin:

I feel gothy.

Tanya:

Or, or, yeah, like you said, it's just inward. You carry, if you carry it with you, that's okay. Your inner goth. Yeah. It's always there, but, yeah, so we see the, the tension in the relationship, and we also see kind of some karma in there, and some, you know, the fact that Lydia had a strained relationship, although I could see understandably with Delia, because Delia is very, very self absorbed. but with Astrid, it's the, it's her father, and her father's Passing, and Astrid is, Astrid takes it out on her mom. She's angry. She's upset. She's grieving. So she's taking it out on on the person who probably cares the most and she knows that which is her mom She

Erin:

I don't think she Really wanted her mom to just stop time after her dad died and like there's one part that lydia explains to astrid you know your dad and I we're having some difficulties When he went on the trip To begin with, so basically trying to explain to her, like, we weren't in the best place when he died, or we weren't as happy as you might have thought we were. And so I grieved him, but not as, not as Astrid probably wanted her to, to show it as much.

Tanya:

Yeah. She, she kind of idealized their, their relationship and kind of thought like, oh, why couldn't you just make it work? And she's also upset with her, like, why can't you talk to him? Because you can talk to other spirits. And Lydia doesn't say this for, I think, a while, but you learn that because he has not been able to talk to her. Right? Because he's, because he's still in purgatory.

Erin:

behind the desk, punching people's tickets. This is like his

Tanya:

bureaucratic job, before he can pass on, or whatever, you know. Yeah, going

Erin:

to the soul train.

Tanya:

Soul Train,

Erin:

So funny.

Tanya:

funny.

Erin:

Which I was really shocked. Like, how did Delia get the fast pass to the Soul Train? Like, how is she just able to go straight to heaven or wherever?

Tanya:

I wonder if that was kind of a commentary of like, she can kind of get things done. Whatever she wants. Like, she's kind of like a social elite, and she's like, well, I can do this. And she was able to create such a bureaucratic system.

Erin:

let me just not wait here till number six million is called. Dance my way over.

Tanya:

yeah, exactly. With her

Erin:

headless husband.

Tanya:

her husband, her headless husband. He's like, more than headless, he's like, part of his chest is out.

Erin:

It's like, each time he talks, blood splatters.

Tanya:

It's so gross. and, like we were saying, it's a creative way to not have the actor back there, because the actor got into a little bit of trouble in real life, and, so they, I think that's, it's speculated that that's why he was not touched up, but probably. Yeah, and it also shows

Erin:

it shows Tim Burton's character too, like in a good way.

Tanya:

Yeah, which, let's talk about the scenery, the setting, because I feel like Tim Burton did not disappoint. He really, you know, there's a lot of CGI stuff and he could have gone all wacky but he kind of, kept it, Pretty simplistic in that realm and kind of paid homage to the 80s decor, you know, and kind of that feel of the original beetle.

Erin:

Yeah, I think so, too.

Tanya:

thought

Erin:

and it was nice too because it did, you know, it's like as soon you see the covered bridge, the red covered bridge, like where, you know, like the beginning where Astrid is riding the bike away and it's like, Oh, You know, like, they kind of zoom in and it's like, oh, I hope she doesn't fall over and die.

Tanya:

Like, what's gonna happen here? Did they go that morbid?

Erin:

was a short movie.

Tanya:

that passed through my mind, too, because I was like, oh, she's on a bike. Wait, is she, what's going on? Wait, that's the bridge.

Erin:

No!

Tanya:

Yeah, I don't know, I guess they didn't go that direction, which is probably for the best.

Erin:

I thought it was kind of interesting, because it was real life stuff, but, then it is, within a little bit of meeting the boy that she crashes into his fence, it does become very, CGI, or, very, creative.

Tanya:

Yeah. Yeah, and there's, so we see introduction of new characters, we see this, I think his name is Jeremy, the boy that she meets, and he kind of knows something's up with him, he's a little weird, she gets a crush on him, she meets him under weird circumstances, he ends up being a not so good guy, spoiler alert, he is dead, he did kill his parents, and he's trying to lure, Astrid into the underworld to get her soul,

Erin:

like, it was so disappointing. I was so upset when I found out, like, you know, I'm like, Oh, he's dead. All poor thing. He fell from the tree. then I was thinking, Oh, his parents are probably just really deep in grief. You know, that's why they're just like cooking or that's why they're just watching TV. Maybe the dad's drunk and the mom is just, you know, doing her own thing. That's why they're igno At first I thought that before we realized he was dead. Then I realized they're just stuck in their own grief. But then we realized that they're murderers.

Tanya:

Yeah. And there's like a Like you can see some of the Like the hatchet or something is still in

Erin:

Yeah, I don't know what the dad was killed with. But it looked like the mom was killed with a whisk or something like that.

Tanya:

Oh, right. Yeah, it was in her eye. Ugh, ugh. Pretty brutal. Yeah. And, you know, that That really is kind of Perspective because Astrid gets lured in under false pretenses, just like Lydia did, you know, like through Beetlejuice, she was like, oh, he can help, you know, even though she was kind of like told by the Maitlands in the first Beetlejuice, don't ever say his name, he's not good. She was desperate for help. But in this case, I think Astrid was just like, oh, this is a boy I like. Yeah, he's cute.

Erin:

We're gonna, I'm gonna help him. Yeah. Not realizing that, oh wait, he just totally tricked me. I don't know what I'm saying, you know, whatever language it was that she was chanting. And then she's just basically saying, like, I'm agreeing to stay on the other side.

Tanya:

Yeah, which is kind of, like, how Lydia gets tricked into, like, almost marrying Beetlejuice in the original one. She's like, wait, what? I gotta fulfill this deal? And even though you didn't really help the Maitland, so Yeah, I just

Erin:

wanted to There's a lot of,

Tanya:

like, parallels to that. Yeah, just trying to help each other.

Erin:

Help people. You know, so she's trying to help this boy. Obviously, she has a crush on him. And Lydia, you know, going back to the original Beetlejuice, the Maitlands had this like parental role to her. Because her, her parents she lived with were so dysfunctional.

Tanya:

Yeah, Lydia is trying in, the 2024 Beetlejuice, she's got some mental health stuff going on, and she's kind of burned out, grieving, and I think Astrid is really not sure who to reach out to for help, instead she's just getting angry, and so she's like, oh well this could be something good, right, and so she kind of in a way is experiencing her own dysfunction too, and, I really liked the returning through the door, even though it was like, oh, this is not good. you could sense that it was not a good move towards that. But, yeah, I think, and then you start to see all the cast of characters, like, and some new ones in the underworld, or the netherworld, whatever they call it. World of the Dead, I don't know, Purgatory, I don't

Erin:

know, you know what we're saying. Yeah, with the big, the DMV for the dead.

Tanya:

The DMV for the dead, I like that, yeah. There you go, DMV for the dead, yeah. Yeah, it's so bureaucratic, and you still see, oh, it's still operating on that. There's, you know, Bob, who we saw, the shrunken head in the original Beetlejuice. There's like a whole host of shrunken heads, but Bob is, is Beetlejuice's, you know, like, friend, and kind of. You know confidant and he he works for him in the customer I was thinking like that

Erin:

Because at the end of the first Beetlejuice didn't Beetlejuice get shrunken like that.

Tanya:

Yes Yeah, cuz he stole he stole the ticket in line and then the other guy had I don't know And so I don't know if that's the same one or maybe because there's like a bunch of them I don't know if it's the same. Yeah, so that's I was wondering like if that

Erin:

somehow Beetlejuice was able to escape that body

Tanya:

Yeah. No, I know what you mean because Bob was really loyal to him and was really friendly and so I don't know either they Repaired that trust and maybe he untrunk his head or maybe it's a different one. Yeah, I don't know But yeah, I was kind of wondering that too. It's kind of like oh, they're friendly in this one Okay, and then there was a bunch of other ones too. Yeah, we also meet, some other characters that I don't know. How did, how did you feel about, beetle Juices? I don't know if it's his, currently still his wife or his ex-wife?

Erin:

Oh, well, I don't know. I, I kind of, Dolores, I think, you know, she was, I was a little confused at first. you know,'cause we're first introduced to her when she, gets the Dandy DeVito janitor guy. You know, like, oh, yeah.

Tanya:

I'm like, is that Danny DeVito? That was a nice little surprise.

Erin:

and then when we had the backstory, it's, Dolores had basically done what Beetlejuice has done to everybody. She was tricking Beetlejuice into marriage so that she could have something for herself, and she was trying to have Immortality and I think when he realized like, oh wait, I'm gonna get killed. She's poisoning me Which I think he probably died right after because she poisoned him But he was able to kill her ahead and I guess like did he chop her up? I don't know that

Tanya:

yeah, I think he chopped her into pieces so she couldn't come back and get him Wow, and like put her in separate boxes or something or yeah, it was a little unclear Somehow she gets pieced back together.

Erin:

Like, how did she show up then? Why did she show up then? You know, but you're just seeing the Right. When her boxes all of a sudden just appear, she has a staple gun, and then she gets it Danny DeVito. While he's listening to Jimmy Buffett, you know, he's just chillin and Yeah, so then it's just kind of you know It is kind of confusing because then you think like does she really love him because then she keeps talking about her true love So it's very confusing

Tanya:

Yeah, and maybe it's just like a peep into like, oh, this is Beetlejuice's crazy world This is why maybe he kind of is tricky and This is where he kind of learned the ropes, maybe something like that.

Erin:

let's have some compassion and emotion towards him. Because you do start to feel for a second, you're like, Oh, wait, no, he was robbing graves, before she found him.

Tanya:

yeah. And, yeah, so he probably was never that great of a character, but I think that whole incident just set a different life path for him, and tricking people, and, you know, I'm feeling like maybe that's like his only option. I think we're probably just looking way too deep into it when it was just supposed to be like, Oh, here's a little backstory because you never really got to know Beetlejuice and like kind of just piece it together sort of thing, you know, quite literally. We've never

Erin:

really talked about if he was a real human ever, cause that's all it too. Like you sometimes think like, was he ever alive or was he always just a demon? But

Tanya:

I think he was alive during the black. That's it. That's when he.

Erin:

I think that's what they allude to, like with Dolores,

Tanya:

Yeah. And so, I mean, somebody, we, I watched this a couple months ago. Erin just watched it for the first time yesterday. And so we're a little kind of hazy on some of this stuff. So please correct us. We're just kind of giving our initial impressions. we're not

Erin:

the experts.

Tanya:

Definitely not. Yeah, it's it's not like the first of the first one.

Erin:

That was we don't point

Tanya:

Yeah,

Erin:

we listen to that one if you want to know everything

Tanya:

Exactly because they go back and listen we recorded that or released it in like October. I think yeah So a couple months ago, you want to? Yeah, but, overall, I mean, I think this was really interesting to see the mother daughter relationship between Astrid and, Lydia, and also Lydia and Delia, kind of how they found their own rhythm, even though they're still dysfunctional.

Erin:

like Lydia and Delia have probably gotten a relationship, because, Delia has a relationship with Astrid, you know, it seems like, you know, like she is the grandmother. It's not just like, oh, this is my stepmom. This is the woman my dad married. It's like, no, this is, now this is your grand, you know, donated to the sporting school where Astrid goes.

Tanya:

yeah, she really got into it instead of just being, you know, looking out for her art and being the self absorbed kind of wife of, you know, Charles or whatever and yeah, she definitely dove into that role and kind of took it on it's nice to see and also Catherine O'Hara. I mean, she's wonderful. Yeah, she's great you can't go wrong with her and she had some I don't know She just kind of makes me laugh sometimes just by being her and I just like her. I've always liked her since Home Alone.

Erin:

she's one of those people too that Tim Burton loves. Like, she was in Nightmare Before Christmas. She was in The Beetlejuices.

Tanya:

you know, well loved by him. Yeah, I think that the way Astrid is saved by Lydia and her dad, it just shows the love and the care and the relationship and it kind of restores them.

Erin:

I think that that was probably a pivotal point too with Lydia getting her off of that train and rescuing her I think that's when they're like, Oh, you know, like, I think Astrid was like, Oh my gosh, my mom came here to get me. And then of course, like the dad pulls them up and, they have this, little moment of hugging. And I think that Astrid realizes like, I'm grieving my dad. I felt like I needed my dad. You know, he gets her Halloween costume, they laugh about it. But then she's like, but my mom's here.

Tanya:

who,

Erin:

You know, this is who I'm going to have my relationship with. she's only 16 and she needs to, she's still trying to figure out who she is and it probably was as scary and as probably, you don't want to go there. It probably was a needed trip for both of them to go into the underworld and to experience all of this. Yeah,

Tanya:

it's kind of therapeutic in a way. It gave them a little bit of, maybe not like closure, but a little bit of something to kind of Give them the answers and the, I don't know, the emotions maybe that needed to be processed. Yeah.

Erin:

Well, they both were, they both were probably stuck too in their grief for different ways, for different parts of it, you know, and I think Astrid had a lot of anger towards Lydia too. Like not only did I lose my dad and you're here, but you supposedly can talk to the dead because Astrid didn't believe in ghosts. And if you can, why can't you talk to dad? Why aren't you talking to dad? So there's a lot of anger, which it seemed like very exaggerated because Or exasperated because of you know, like her mom is a medium so her you know Like it seems like is her mom just being selfish does she do not want me to talk to dad? Is it you know, so i'm sure there's a lot of other things going on with that

Tanya:

Yeah, for sure a lot of complicated family dynamics, which is kind of that mental health spin that we're We're into and that we we probably paid way too much attention to watching the movie You know that people are probably just it was a it was an enjoyable. It was a nice. It was a good movie I liked it. I liked that they made it. I don't care that it doesn't feel the same as the first one It just won't

Erin:

I thought it was good, too And I'd like at the end like at the wedding, you know, cuz it was like, oh my gosh I still have to get married So like after they have this big ordeal in the underworld is like oh wait Let me go run to this church and get married And, you know, they're like, why, why are you doing this? Like, well, he wanted to. He seems, you know, he seems nice enough. She doesn't realize that Rory is a big jerk. So then all that comes. Yeah, he's a big user. And so it's interesting too that Astrid helps save Lydia, because Lydia just saved Astrid. You know, so.

Tanya:

She kind of, gets the truth serum. He admits he's only, Rory's only with her. Or like the money. Mm hmm. And then thankfully he gets taken away by a sandworm. along with Dolores. Beetlejuice kind of just solves that issue.

Erin:

and then Beetlejuice dies. He gets blown up. But I was sad when, well not sad, but I was like, ah, when Delia had to go back because that she's like, you know, like when everyone, when the William Dafoe character is leaving and They're like, what? Why are you going? And she's like, oh, and then Astrid knew right away. She's like, they weren't defanged, were they?

Tanya:

yeah. And it's like another loss, you know, like, they just kind of keep losing people to the, netherworld, underworld, whatever.

Erin:

the DMV.

Tanya:

Yeah, she knows that that's the important thing for her Which is that's pretty funny. Yeah, there's some good moments of of humor. I found really really funny You know, I like the the dry wit. Astrid had some good lines, you know, so did Delia, of course, and Beetlejuice wasn't as much of a perv in this one. Yeah, he wasn't, he's just kind of gross. I mean,

Erin:

like, the little baby Beetlejuice was pretty disturbing, but.

Tanya:

that gave me a little bit of a nightmare.

Erin:

Especially when, when Lydia was having the nightmare of like, when she was having like a dream sequence where she dreamt that Astrid got married and had a baby, and then the baby was. Baby beetroot juice. I was like, ah, yes,

Tanya:

so then it starts crawling up and down Creepy.

Erin:

Yeah. it's like you're glad to wake up from that nightmare. but I thought it was interesting too like with the boy. what was his name? Jeremy the that Like, when he stamped the thing, he's like, they're like, no, don't stamp the password. Then they realized it was Beetlejuice, and it's like, you know, you're out of luck, kid. And then he just opens the thing and then he goes straight to hell. So, of course, Beetlejuice was helping, because he thought he was going to get something in return. But it was nice to see that he was like, not quite a hero move, but it was kind of a cool thing that Beetlejuice was able to send the bad guy down.

Tanya:

Yeah, he's still very transactional, but there's a little bit of something there, a little bit of helping out, yeah. But, you know, I do wonder if that dream about the baby Beetlejuice, is that like a sequel, maybe? Is that something they left open? I don't know. Like, I don't know, or is that just totally just, I think that was a

Erin:

total dream sequence. It had to have been, because I don't think, because Astrid still looked 16, and she still, you know, like the, you know, I mean, but maybe she did get married to that guy and maybe they did move to that area, you know, who knows, but I don't know, or maybe she's going to raise it. It's Tim

Tanya:

Burton's universe, you never know. Yeah, she could

Erin:

be married, she could be having a little baby Beetlejuice.

Tanya:

Yeah. anything else before I get to the question?

Erin:

I think I really did appreciate the, like the little things. Like even when they're mourning, the house is mourning. Like how, how ridiculous. Yeah. Delia, you know, Delia is, just like, has the house in the black scarf. she's so extra. And it's just the little things that you notice that, Tim Burton really put that extra Thought into

Tanya:

yeah, I love seeing his world. I love seeing how it's a continuation of it Yeah, how it's kind of changing and I really yeah, and the music I love that just for that pure fact

Erin:

Yeah, and the music in the background everything was really really good. I really love the call back to some things and then also

Tanya:

Just some new stuff.

Erin:

funeral. that's what it was like the funeral the day day. Oh

Tanya:

Yeah when it was like kind of echoing in the back. Yeah Well, they had the people singing

Erin:

it for Charles's funeral, which I thought was kind of

Tanya:

oh, right That's right. Okay. Yeah

Erin:

Yeah, that was kind of a definitely bringing you to the original

Tanya:

Yeah, that's, I like that. It's a little nostalgic, but still weird, but new and innovative and visionary all in one. Yeah. Wrapped up. Yeah, exactly. Preston Burton. Mm hmm. He's, he's great. So, my question Okay. To you would be, if you were able to be given the power of being able to be a medium to speak to ghosts, would you take it? Oh yeah, definitely. Without a

Erin:

question. I would, well, I don't know, if I could shut it off, because you always hear like the Long Island medium and stuff like that, it sounds like, oh, it's a, but I think, maybe if, it sounds exhausting, yeah, it sounds exhausting, just like

Tanya:

Lydia,

Erin:

like a day and just talk to a couple people and then turn it off and never have it again?

Tanya:

See, I think that's the caveat is that you either have it or you don't. And maybe you can learn to turn it off. I don't know.

Erin:

so, I guess I would have to say no then, because I wouldn't want to talk to everybody. That'd be really annoying. It might be scary too. I don't want to talk to everybody now. I'm just like, maybe say hi to my mom, my sister and stuff, like, you know, but I don't want to, yeah, I guess no, I guess no, after I'm thinking like, I can't turn it off.

Tanya:

I think my immediate answer is no, because it feels exhausting, like I could totally relate to what Lydia was saying, just even as a therapist, that's enough, nevermind, things that you can't necessarily control being around you,

Erin:

these people don't have appointments.

Tanya:

Yeah, they just show up at two in the morning, you'll be dead asleep, and they're like, hey, I gotta tell you something. Yeah, like that

Erin:

show Ghost, do you ever watch that? That's so funny. It's our favorite. Like she goes you should watch it. It's like she's she's Lives in a haunted house and she's just all all night. They're waking her up to talk to her. It's just really funny

Tanya:

Is that that's not ghost whispers. No, it's just ghost. No, oh my god

Erin:

It was good I used to watch that too, but no this is different.

Tanya:

Yeah, I think it's something that could be at first people might be like, oh yeah, I want that, but you can also get some, not so friendly spirits, you could get people that won't turn off, yeah.

Erin:

Yeah, that would be kind of a lot.

Tanya:

I think just like, you know, we create boundaries and we learn to turn it off. Maybe it's a similar process. I have no idea. So maybe that might be worth it, but it just sounds like a lot of work so that I don't think I have the energy. No, that's true.

Erin:

just the no boundaries that that makes me make it a big no after talking. Yeah. After Thinking about it for these few seconds. I'm changing my mind to a no.

Tanya:

Yeah,

Erin:

I think I'm

Tanya:

a no Too even though it would be interesting. I think it would only be interesting for a little bit Yeah, like if I could see

Erin:

people that I've died that I want to see For like a little bit have a conversation then they're gone again. That would be fine. But

Tanya:

yeah

Erin:

Just

Tanya:

like that one five minute conversation or something. Yeah, it's yeah, that'd be nice. I mean, but I just don't think I would, I would want that. Yeah. like you said, if it were maybe just for a day or two, but maybe you wouldn't even necessarily get to talk to the people that you want to. Yeah, and how do you know it's really them? yeah, it's tough, but, I don't think I'd want to mess with that. I think we have too much, too much stuff thrown at us already.

Erin:

It's true, I have trouble managing my own, Mind.

Tanya:

Me too. I hear you. Yes, myself. Myself is, is its own, journey. Yeah. Hard work. Too much. Yeah. Too much to, to, you know, kind of reign in. Yeah. But yeah, so, all right, well, let us know what, what, what you would say, you know, and how you would feel about if you would Like to be a medium to seek to go steward its energy of whatever but we hope you enjoyed this discussion of beetlejuice beetlejuice the 2024 version and hope you get to see it if you haven't already. It was really great. If you are into the original movie I think you'll definitely find some things you like in this movie.

Erin:

you haven't listened to our other episode listen to that

Tanya:

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Erin:

stay wicked and keep your mind well and have a great week. Okay. Bye. Bye. Bye guys

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